I Cant Beef With Him He Dead

" A cannibalism problem? Actually? I'm so glad you weren't eaten! " — Yeah Man

Across the Beef is a side quest in Fallout: New Vegas.

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Synopsis

Well known brahmin rancher Heck Gunderson asks the Courier to track downward his son Ted, who has disappeared in the Ultra-Luxe Casino Hotel. Ted was kidnapped by agents of Mortimer of the White Glove Society, in an attempt to return the White Glove Society to cannibalism.

Warning: This quest is tied to Pheeble Will. If choosing the vengeful way to kill Heck Gunderson and/or his son, depending on your choices, information technology is possible to fail 1 of the two quests.

Quick walkthrough

Side Quest: Beyond the Beefiness

Go to the Ultra-Luxe casino and speak with Heck Gunderson.

Speak with Marjorie and then Mortimer, the managers of the Ultra-Luxe.

Sort out everyone's problems by either:

Help render Heck Gunderson's son to him alive, curing the White Glove Lodge cannibalism in the process.

Help return Heck Gunderson'south son to him alive and help Mortimer return the White Glove Club to cannibalism by killing one of your human companions or a man named Carlyle St. Clair III.

Kill and melt Heck Gunderson'south son, arraign his father for the murder, and help the White Glove Club render to cannibalism.

Kill every White Glove member you see on the way to Ted and lead him out alive.

Reward: 100 or 500 XP, 250 or 500 caps and the Strip fame or White Glove Guild fame.

Detailed walkthrough

In the Ultra-Luxe casino, the Courier finds Heck Gunderson, a wealthy brahmin baron, sitting at the bar and upset about his missing son. Later questioning the purpose of his visit, one can offer assistance in finding his son, Ted Gunderson. Then go talk with Marjorie, one of the managers of the Ultra-Luxe Casino & Hotel, located at the Gourmand eatery and acquire that a bride went missing in the hotel, which is damaging their reputation. At some point in the conversation she volition inform yous that the White Glove Society were cannibals, just this practice is now forbidden. You have the option to tell her that yous are a cannibal too, as a lie (unless yous accept the Cannibal perk), which does not print her and will lead to White Glove Society infamy.

Afterwards you lot inform her that yous are looking for some other human being, much to her disbelief, she will tell you to observe the other director, Mortimer. When talking to Mortimer you have several options.

• You can lie, with a Speech of 62, or employ the Cannibal perk, to tell him that you are a carnivorous likewise (no infamy gained), he will be euphoric and explain his plan to render the White Glove Order to cannibalism, by killing or arranging a substitute for Ted Gunderson.
• Y'all can just enquire him directly if y'all have evil Karma and non-neutral Strip reputation.
• You tin can follow Marjorie's advice and ask him about an investigator searching for clues almost a missing bride in the hotel.

Working with Mortimer

Mortimer is very displeased that the Guild is denying their basic impulses and wishes the render of the former practices. For this, he volition arrange a banquet in which members will be served meals prepared with homo mankind. For this purpose he bundled a kidnapping, but the victim was able to escape. Having to detect a substitute at the last minute, those loyal to him kidnapped Ted Gunderson, son of Heck Gunderson, a very powerful brahmin baron.

Mortimer wants to get rid of Ted in a mode that doesn't leave any suspicion of the Ultra-Luxe; or, if it's not possible, kill Ted and use him as a repast, framing his father for the death. If you want to spare Ted'south life yous accept to provide a substitute for the feast, which tin exist one of your human companions if yous give this suggestion to him or the original victim that was able to escape, Carlyle St. Clair Three. Note, that you tin't use imitation strange pie for this task. He and then will provide keys for the Ultra-Luxe freezer, Gourmand kitchen and Ultra-Luxe Penthouse, as well as a cattle prod.

Return Ted to his father and detect a substitute for the banquet

• If you want to render Ted live to his father, get to the Gourmand restaurant and apply the elevator to go to the basement.
• A White Glove Order baby-sit will inquire what yous are doing in that location. Inform him that Mortimer wishes to get rid of the kid without arousing suspicion if he cooperates, with a 55 Speech cheque.
• Open the freezer and talk to Ted. You have to lie near the people who did this to him and laissez passer a 38 Speech cheque, indicating that peradventure it was some competitors trying to screw his begetter's negotiation about brahmin with the "White Pants Order" (in Ted's own words).
• Go out with him through the Gourmand restaurant kitchen. If you lot try to apply the members-just door everyone in the basement will turn hostile (even if yous don't open the door).
• Guide Ted to his father, who will exist furious and need to know who did this to Ted. Prevarication that y'all don't know and receive 500 caps from him, besides as some White Glove Society fame.

The side by side stride is to discover a substitute for the banquet.

You may either:

Sacrifice one of your human companions past going to the kitchen and locking them in the freezer. This will cease the quest. Note: you will lose annihilation they are carrying.

or:

Travel to Carlyle St. Clair's house and convince Carlyle to get to the Ultra-Luxe, or knock him unconscious and put his body in a dumpster close to his house. His abode is located close to Freeside North Entrance; travel to the gate and follow the road between north and northeast in a straight line.

There are many ways to deal with Carlyle St. Clair. You can convince him to go to the Ultra-Luxe with a 65 Spoken communication cheque; if you have the Black Widow perk you tin can propose to have sex activity with him in the dumpster; with 45 guns you tin pistol-whip him; asking him virtually himself volition reveal he was black-labeled by his family and with a 45 Speech you lot can convince him that the White Glove Gild tin clean his proper name; request near a pain he has in the neck will lead to a 7 Force, 45 Medicine or 45 Unarmed check that will knock him unconscious. If you don't have any of these skills, apply a cattle prod that Mortimer provided to you (make sure that your companions are abroad, if not they may accidentally kill him). Drag his torso to the dumpster and place him inside. It should be noted that if yous have the Cannibal perk, devouring him will make y'all neglect the quest.

Go dorsum to Mortimer after dealing with St. Clair, or your companion, and gain 500 XP and a huge boost of Strip and White Glove Society fame. This concludes the quest and the White Glove will return to cannibalism after the 7PM banquet.

ALTERNATIVELY:

You can steal or gain through dialogue a recipe from the head chef, Philippe, that will allow you create a homo flesh culling to fool Mortimer and all the White Glove members (55 Castling check will get yous his recipe, 55 Medicine check will get y'all his recipe and the cardinal to the freezer where they're keeping Ted). This will issue in Mortimer revealing himself at the banquet without the player having to impale anyone, not even the melt. This is possible if the player tin laissez passer a Barter, Medicine or Voice communication bank check to get the recipes and remove the cook without having to impale him. Create the dish, and wait until 7 PM for the banquet to begin. Utilise the intercom to phone call the caput waiter. When the waiter arrives you must either exist disguised as a fellow member of the White Glove Lodge or hidden out of sight, otherwise he will become hostile.

If y'all program on freeing Ted and exposing Mortimer, talk to him only after the head waiter has left the room, preferably the area, considering he will be hostile if Ted is following you lot. Use the direct route to the feast hall, and sneak while you enter, because the White Glove members volition be hostile to you. Look for Mortimer to stop his speech, walk up to him, stand up up and quickly talk to him, because otherwise your companions and Ted will attack the bouncer, causing the unabridged room to become hostile to you lot (if you discover yous are unable to avert this, open the panel, click on Ted, and type in "tai" and press Enter. This will disable his AI and prevent him from attacking. Practise the same for any companions. Exist certain to do information technology once again to re-enable their AI once you have dealt with Mortimer). Expose Mortimer's plan, and talk to Marjorie for your heave to White Glove Social club fame. You as well proceeds Strip fame if yous persuade (35 Speech communication) Heck Gunderson not to cease selling brahmin meat to White Glove gild.

Quest stages

Stage	Status	Description
ten		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson's disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
80		Go Ted back to his male parent if he is still alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson, who'southward being held in a room below the Gourmand.
105		Return Ted to his male parent at the Ultra-Luxe's Top Shelf Bar.
110		Secure an acceptable replacement for Ted Gunderson as the White Glove Society's main course.
120		Talk to Carlyle St. Clair at his residence northward of the Strip.
125		(Optional) Lock one of your man companions in the Ultra-Luxe kitchen freezer as replacement for Ted.
130		(Optional) Accept the recipe-book from the cook, non-violently (optional) and brand a human-mankind alternative and allow Mortimer expose himself to the people, while they dine on a meat that'southward non human being-flesh.
200		Return to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Kill Ted, and frame his father for the murder

If you want to consummate the quest Pheeble Will and receive a very overnice advantage from both Mortimer and Walter Phebus, killing Ted is advantageous.

Accept the quest from Walter merely don't accept any of the Barter checks. Get dorsum to the Ultra-Luxe and tell Mortimer that you lot desire to help him (you may have to lie to him). Mortimer will give you a key that lets you enter the kitchen basement. A White Glove Social club guard will ask what you are doing, inform him that Mortimer wishes to get rid of the kid. Open the freezer and talk to Ted. You have the option to talk a little or simply tell him that you are finishing what the White Gloves started, which volition cause him to turn hostile. After killing Ted, collect a bit of blood and some remains from the corpse to frame his father.

Note: This option is nevertheless available if you lie about your intention when agreeing to help Mortimer, but continue in mind that y'all mustn't agree to help Heck Gunderson find his son when asking what he is doing in the Ultra-Luxe in the quest Pheeble Will or the option to assist Mortimer frame Heck volition not appear. Merely even so it is nevertheless possible to go with this option by simply going near the quest to aid Mortimer and kill Ted anyway, equally the quest will simply advance to the office of framing Heck as soon every bit Ted is expressionless.

With the faux evidence in your inventory, go to the Ultra-Luxe Penthouse. The penthouse can be accessed from an elevator located in a room behind Mortimer's desk-bound. Two bodyguards working for Gunderson, his hired easily patrol the suite and are hostile, only can exist killed without Karma penalty. Distribute the claret and remains of Ted in the bed and in the bathroom sink. Then go to the Strip and inform a securitron that a murder happened in the Ultra-Luxe. After making a surreal and mocking oral communication about the law, the securitron will proceed to arrest Heck Gunderson, who will resist and terminate up being killed.

Go on to Mortimer for your reward of 500 XP, Strip and White Glove Order fame, and the issue of the White Glove Lodge returning to cannibalism after the 7PM banquet.

Afterward talking to Mortimer, go back to Walter for an boosted reward of 200 XP and one,500 caps or 110 XP and 400 caps.

Extra info: This method will allow the Courier to complete the unabridged line of tasks in Render Unto Caesar.

Quest stages

Stage	Status	Description
10		Ask around the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson'south disappearance.
20		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe about the investigator.
lxxx		Go Ted dorsum to his father if he is nevertheless alive.
100		Talk to Ted Gunderson who's existence held in a room beneath the Gourmand.
150		Kill Ted Gunderson.
160		Collect samples of Ted's corpse for utilize in framing his male parent.
170		Distribute your samples effectually Heck Gunderson's bed and sink in his Ultra-Luxe penthouse suite.
180		Ship a Securitron from the Strip to investigate Heck Gunderson'southward suite.
200		Return to Mortimer in the Ultra-Luxe

Following the Investigator

There is besides a style to salve Ted and prevent the White Glove Order from returning to cannibalism:

When yous talk to Marjorie nigh the disappearance of Ted, she tells y'all that an investigator was looking for clues near a missing bride who had stayed at the hotel, so she directs you to Mortimer. Later on inquiring Mortimer about the investigator, he gives yous a fundamental to the investigator's room. If you ask virtually the White Glove Order'due south reputation of cannibalism, you accept the opportunity to prevarication with 62 Speech communication or utilize the Cannibal perk to tell him that you are also a carnivorous. Mortimer will reveal his plan to you and request that you assist him. If you lot hold to help without lying, you lot will not be able to obtain the note Matchbook from the dead investigator or run into with Chauncey. If y'all lie well-nigh helping, Mortimer will give you the Penthouse key, kitchen key, and freezer fundamental.

Go to the investigator's room, located in the Ultra-Luxe Hotel rooms. You will discover that the investigator is dead. Search his torso for the matchbook note, which will tell you lot that he had a meeting with someone in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4PM. Ii White Glove Society members will announced and set on with dress canes. After dealing with them, head to the steam room and wait until 4PM.

In the steam room, yous will meet Chauncey, a member of the White Glove Society who wants to terminate Mortimer from returning to cannibalism. He tells you lot that a feast at 7PM volition serve a meal made with homo mankind and that Mortimer is behind the disappearance of Ted Gunderson. Mortimer'due south programme is to make a spoken communication telling the White Glove Society what they ate so they will pass the taboo and return to cannibalism.

Chauncey doesn't know where Ted is, but he suspects that he is existence held in the Members-Only department of the Ultra-Luxe. Chauncey warns you that if Ted is seen in the hotel, the other members will set on to protect their secret. He gives two suggestions for freeing Ted:

• You tin spike the wine with a Med-X and 25 Medicine to create drugged wine, then escape with Ted while the members are asleep (if you need a Med-X, you can endeavor to find i in a first aid kit, although it is rare. There are three kits in the basement: one in each of the two adjacent basement kitchens, and one in the storage room next to the bathroom).
• You can cook up a fake meal that volition fox Mortimer into exposing himself without corrupting the rest of the White Glove members. According to Chauncey, at the stop of Mortimer'southward speech communication, yous tin enter the feast hall with Ted alive and cause the Society to expel Mortimer.

Chauncey recommends the second approach, since the first would only be a temporary solution, and it would not forestall Mortimer from trying over again in the future. Right after you lot say cheerio, an assassinator will appear and kill Chauncey. Note: Chauncey is scripted to die. Even if you impale the assassin before a single shot is fired against Chauncey, he will nevertheless die instantly every bit if he had been shot.

Subsequently dealing with the assassin, go on to the Gourmand. If your reputation on the Strip is "accepted" or ameliorate, Marjorie will sponsor you every bit a member and give you lot formal wear and a primal to the Members-Only department. Backside the bar is a door to the kitchen that tin can exist lockpicked, or use the primal if information technology was provided by Mortimer earlier (or have the long manner from the casino floor to the Members-But section and through the door behind the bar to the kitchen.)

In the upper level are 2 White Glove members torching meat with flamers. There are 6 pieces of infected brahmin meat on the counters. Employ the elevator or caput down the stairs to the basement. There is a White Glove Society fellow member patrolling the hallway. If he sees you lot and asks what you are doing in the basement, you can lie with 55 Speech and say that Mortimer wants to movement the kid, or you can choose a 35 Repair bank check to convince him that y'all are a plumber checking for leaks.

Go down the hall and look for the kitchen where the executive chef, Philippe, is located (at that place is a Recipes - Brahmin Wellington on the counter). To free Ted, you tin can use either the freezer key or the terminal next to the freezer door (at a loss of Karma,) but you must bargain with Philippe first. There are several things that can be done:

• You lot tin can pickpocket Philippe for the note Philippe's recipes and the freezer cardinal.
• You can kill and loot him. This gains White Glove Society infamy unless it is a stealth kill. You lot also proceeds Karma since he is evil.
• You can antagonize Philippe through dialogue until you lot have the opportunity for several skill checks. (Annotation: you tin exercise multiple checks if yous talk to him over again afterwards.)
  • Oral communication check: With 55 Speech, yous can tell him you lot saw a Radroach. He volition encounter the pantry, at which point you can utilise the terminal to close the door, trapping him within. Nevertheless, you demand 75 Survival to make imitation strange meat pie without a recipe, or create drugged wine with a Med-Ten and 25 Medicine.
  • Barter check: With 55 Castling, you can say y'all are major publisher looking for a cookbook. And so in that location are two options: pay him 100 caps for an advance on the book, or pass some other 55 Speech bank check to tell him to give you his recipes. However, yous yet need to observe a way to get rid of him and a fashion to become into the freezer (if you don't want to utilise the terminal).
  • Medicine check: With 55 Medicine, y'all can tell him "harebrained psychobabble" until he has a breakdown. He gives you his recipes and freezer cardinal before fleeing.

If you wish to cook fake strange meat pie and expose Mortimer, yous will need Philippe'south recipes and six Intelligence or 75 Survival to improvise ane.

If y'all wish to brand drugged wine, you demand a Med-X and 25 Medicine. (If you demand a Med-X, you tin can try to detect i in a first aid kit, although it is rare. In that location are three first aid kits in the basement: one in each of the ii next basement kitchens, and one in the storage room next to the bath.) There is a vino canteen you tin examine on a shelf above the stove in Philippe'southward kitchen, and some other vino bottle on a table in the vino cellar room (in the room adjacent to the other kitchen). You only need to drug one canteen, simply it cannot be taken despite the red steal message. However, yous tin pickpocket the head waiter while he is carrying it; the members at the banquet still end upwardly beingness drugged. (This makes it possible to keep both the drugged vino and false foreign meat pie in your inventory, if you also cook the false nutrient and "steal" it.)

Later cooking the nutrient or drugging the wine, wait until 7PM (when the dinner guests arrive,) then use the intercom to call the head waiter to come downwards and collect the wine/meal. If Marjorie did non sponsor you lot as a White Glove Society member earlier, disguise yourself in White Glove attire before the head waiter arrives, or stay hidden and then that he does not go hostile. (For whatever reason, sometimes the waiter stops in forepart of the kitchen door when told to pick up the wine; to fix this, just close the door, and he'll retrieve the second bottle in the wine cellar.) It'due south also appropriate to complimentary Ted after the head waiter has left, since seeing Ted will plough the waiter hostile. When you open the door, Ted will be very upset, enervating to know who did this to him. You have iii options: say there'due south no time to explicate, tell him the truth, or lie and say yous don't know who did it. In order to gain White Glove Society fame when the quest ends, don't tell Ted (or his father) the truth, then choose "At that place's no time to explain" or lie to him.

Have Ted follow you out of the kitchen and to the right, being careful to brand sure the waiter isn't still walking dorsum. Follow the stairs up and go through the door to the White Glove private dining area (if you're not a member yous'll need to use a key from Marjorie or Mortimer, or selection the lock). If the waiter took the wine, anybody will exist asleep. You can loot the bodies, Mortimer being amongst them. If the waiter took the fake meal, hunker down and hibernate behind the bar until Mortimer finishes his speech. Note: You must wait for him to finish his banquet speech with the words "bon appetit" before y'all approach Mortimer. Doing so beforehand will crusade the other White Gloves to become hostile to you lot.

As soon as Mortimer finishes, but jump over the counter, run over to him and initiate dialogue. Exposing him will cause him to abscond, simply the other diners - the ones who might otherwise have attacked you lot - should remain neutral. If yous are successfully able to attack Mortimer later exposing him but before he flees the room, the other diners may collectively mob Mortimer and aid you in killing him. Afterwards, talk to Marjorie to receive White Glove Society fame.

At this bespeak you tin either render Ted to his begetter, or yous tin can behave out the revenge path of Pheeble Volition equally detailed in the section in a higher place.

To consummate the quest peacefully, return with Ted to his father. If y'all didn't lie to Ted in the freezer, he volition tell his male parent what happened and Heck will want to impose a occludent of food on the Strip. You take the pick to not let this happen with a 35 Speech check, which will atomic number 82 to Strip fame. If you are unable to pass the bank check, you will gain infamy. If y'all lied to Ted in the freezer (or said at that place wasn't time to explain), his father asks who was behind the kidnapping. If you tell the truth, you have to pass the same 35 Speech check, but this time you will only proceeds Strip fame. If you prevarication to him, you will proceeds both Strip fame and White Glove Lodge fame.

Yous also become 500 XP and 500 caps for completing the quest.

Quest stages

Stage	Condition	Clarification
10		Ask effectually the Ultra-Luxe for information regarding Ted Gunderson'southward disappearance.
twenty		Inquire with Mortimer at the Ultra-Luxe almost the investigator.
thirty		Get into the investigator's room at the Ultra-Luxe.
35		Search the Investigator for clues.
40		Come across with the investigator's contact in the Ultra-Luxe steam room at 4pm.
fifty		Find a way to gain access to the Members-Only section of the Gourmand.
60		(Optional) Find a sponsor to assist you join the White Glove Lodge.
lxx		(Optional) Alarm Heck Gunderson to his son'south state of affairs.
75		(Optional) Go rid of Philippe and cook for the banquet using his recipe for human mankind.
76		(Optional) Drug the wine at the White Glove Society banquet.
78		(Optional) Use the intercom to call in the head waiter.
79		(Optional) Bring Ted to the Members Only section to expose Mortimer at the end of his banquet speech.
80		Get Ted dorsum to his father if he is still live.
ninety		Talk to Heck Gunderson.

The Bloodthirsty Courier

You also have the unmarked selection to utilize Wasteland manners in the pedant face of the White Glove Gild, if you don't mind the possibility of being vilified by them.

Follow the quest as detailed in the "Post-obit the Investigator" section above, but after discovering from Chauncey the plans regarding Ted, the Courier has the unmarked option to tell Heck Gunderson what'southward happening.

Later you have given Heck the news, he offers a dissimilar solution: but shoot anybody in your mode and return Ted to him. He provides you with a sawed-off shotgun and some shells.

Note that if you do this, you can kill all of the White Gloves in the casino with no Karma loss and never have your weapons taken over again. You can fifty-fifty go into the cashier'southward office and clean information technology out to get your possessions back, suffering simply pocket-size Karma loss for opening/stealing things. Then you volition accept all your weapons and can proceed the quest uninterrupted, although you lot may desire to disguise every bit a White Glove to preclude unwanted attacks. Only exist sure not to kill Marjorie or Mortimer or the quest will neglect. Even later on all the killing, once you consummate the quest you may even so go from hated to idolized by the White Gloves.

Once you return Ted to his male parent the quest is completed, and yous gain 500 XP and 500 caps from Heck.

Notes

• It is possible to skip almost all of this quest and still receive the XP points and advantage from Heck. After speaking with Heck for the starting time time and like-minded to help find his son, simply sneak into the Gourmand kitchen via the locked door behind the bar. It is possible to do this undetected. Once within, sneak by the 2 White Gloves roasting the brahmin meat and head down the stairs. There is another White Glove on patrol in this hallway. If he detects you he will confront y'all and you can pass a Speech cheque to convince him that Mortimer told you to movement the boy or tell him yous're there to gear up some leaky pipes. If yous pass one of these Speech checks he will let yous go along. Any of the doors on the left side of the hallway will atomic number 82 you to where Phillipe is standing. He will exist facing the wall and information technology is possible to sneak past him undetected. Behind him is the door to the freezer room. Hack the terminal (accessing the last will cause you lot to lose Karma) to gain access to the freezer. This is where Ted is being held. Talk to Ted and he will follow y'all out. It is possible to sneak past Phillipe again. If you lot are detected by Phillipe after freeing Ted he will become hostile, along with all the other White Gloves in the kitchen area. The White Glove in the hallway will non confront yous fifty-fifty if he sees Ted with you lot. Sneak back upstairs and out of the kitchen. One time you're out of the kitchen find Heck speak with him. Y'all will take all the dialogue options every bit you would normally.
• The determination to assist the White Glove Society or non does not have any repercussions in the game or in the quest Render Unto Caesar other than giving some Legion reputation and a lot of bad Karma to the player. This is the merely quest in New Vegas that doesn't carry whatsoever repercussions between factions, towns, locations or non-histrion characters. This is also i of the few quests that allows you to subvert the unabridged progression and kill virtually everyone in information technology without damaging your reputation or Karma.
• The role player can both expose Mortimer and kill Heck and Ted without framing Heck. To do this, expose Mortimer as detailed in the in a higher place walkthrough, and so kill Ted in an abandoned surface area of the casino so you are not seen. Written report to Heck that Ted is dead and tell him the White Glove Social club kidnapped him, which leads into the aforementioned 35 Speech cheque to not end supplying the Strip meat as though the player brought Ted back live. Heck will remain at the bar after dialogue ends, just draw your weapon and kill him, then put your weapon abroad and the White Glove Society members and other patrons should get back to friendly. You tin can then study to Walter to conclude Pheeble Will. This path earns you the title "Good-Natured Rascal", every bit you will be idolized past the White Glove Gild but are guilty of breaking their rules by carrying a weapon and attacking Heck in their view. Or, kill him stealthily, e.g. with the silenced .22 pistol, which is a holdout weapon. Hiding in the casino backside a table is quite doable, you may have to fire two or iii times to kill him before he turns around.
• If you chose to drug the wine, afterward the head waiter picks up the drugged wine, you can pickpocket it off him with no change in the current objective (the White Glove Lodge members volition still become comatose).
  • Also, when yous enter the White Glove Society gathering y'all take the option to talk to the members. Attempting to talk to them actually opens upwards their extended inventory (the clothes they are currently wearing will be listed), which you tin can loot without loss of Karma or reputation. Even later on finishing the quest, the members will not replace their clothing or masks, and they will walk around in their underwear. Also if yous wake them up when they are drugged by hitting one and so putting your fists away they all will walk around the room and you can notwithstanding pick their pockets as if they were unconscious and the histrion will non be able to talk to them until they leave.
• If all the securitrons on The Strip were killed previously, it tin can be difficult to finish this quest via framing Gunderson as the quest markers volition simply point to empty spaces and the securitrons can take a very long time to respawn. This can be detrimental when playing on Hardcore as you volition most probable take to wait for over a week, during which time you will have to keep sleep, dehydration and hunger levels down. On the PC version accessing the panel, targeting a dead securitron and inbound the command "resurrect" will restore the securitron to life and allow you lot to consummate the quest.
• If yous are working for Mr. Business firm after the quest is completed you take the choice to tell him that the White Gloves are now cannibals, he will then tell you to deal with them in any way you meet fit as this is a alienation of their contract.
• If you choose to frame Heck Gunderson, the securitron that comes to bargain with him volition be a securitron MK I, regardless of whether or not the Courier upgraded Mr. House'due south securitrons to MK II.
• If you want to consummate both the Pheeble Volition and Beyond The Beef quests with the most experience, the best pick is to, if you take the advisable Barter skill level, get Phebus to concord to pay 400 caps for your help kickoff. And so, go talk to Heck Gunderson and find out his son Ted is missing. Later on that, speak with Phebus again and tell him what you lot've found out; he'll pay you and the side by side set of dialogue options volition appear. Simply choose 'Adieu', then talk to his wife. Tell her y'all'll try to talk Phebus out of it, and and so exercise so past whatever methods are at your disposal. He and his wife will leave without yous having to impale Ted or Heck. This will give you 413 XP, simply only 400 caps. It too requires Speech 75. This fashion yous can bring Ted dorsum to his father Heck and receive 589 XP, as well as 500 caps. You exercise nevertheless demand Speech 35 to ensure you get the Strip and White Glove Guild fame. Likewise killing Mortimer later on you lot bear witness him up will requite you lot 55 XP. Simply if you lot complete this quest peacefully commencement will fail the Pheeble Will quest. If yous already took Ted to Heck, finish the former quest before talking to Heck.
• If you bring Ted dorsum to Heck and and so impale Heck, the White Glove Society volition shun you, but Heck's hired gun volition help you fight them.
• Picking the lock to the door that leads to the cashier's booth will issue in negative Karma, and upon approaching the cashier, he will get hostile. Notwithstanding, if you only pick the lock then close the door, at that place will be no resulting hostility.
• The but fashion to receive Strip fame is currently to dissuade Heck Gunderson from imposing a food blockade, which is possible ONLY if you return Ted to his father, thus failing Pheeble Volition. Helping Mortimer promotes you to Idolized with the White Gloves, simply has no consequence on your Strip reputation. (You lot can likewise only impale Ted and lie to Heck that you simply found him and don't know who did it, that will also give you Strip fame, as well equally White Glove fame).
• As of version 1.4, neither Mortimer nor Marjorie take lines about cannibalism or Ted Gunderson until you offering to Heck to discover his son (at least if you aren't a Cannibal and only have high Speech). And, reverse to what the walkthrough keeps reiterating, this volition actually enable yous to enquire Mortimer for a chore. Having Pheeble Volition started or not does not seem to be of relevance. Put another way, this quest is now given only past Heck Gunderson.

Behind the scenes

• Beyond the Beef was designed by Eric Fenstermaker.
• Beyond the Beef took a very long time to finish during development, as it took many milestones to complete. It was never under consideration to be cut from the game, despite its bugs, because of the quality of the quest - instead, the internal discussions were more than along the lines of emphasizing the need to wrap up development of the quest so the team could focus efforts elsewhere.^{[Non-catechism 1]}
• If the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, so after framing Heck Gunderson, the securitron sent to abort him will say the line "Dead or alive, you're coming with me" just before shooting him. This is a quote from the movie RoboCop (1987). The voice and inflection sound similar to that of Robocop as well.
• Likewise if the Courier has the Wild Wasteland trait, the deceased investigator will be named "Crusoe." This is in reference to Robinson Crusoe, the protagonist of the classic novel of same name. In the novel, Crusoe is marooned on an island where he encounters cannibals.
• The name of this quest is another play of words that most probable refers to the song Across the Reef, written by J. Pitman in 1948 and made popular in 1950 by Bing Crosby. The song was covered past Elvis Presley and The Ventures, along with many other artists.

Bugs

• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If you lot choose to melt the simulated meat pie and so take it, when you call the head waiter over he will stand up in forepart of the oven and will not motility. ^[verified]
  • On the Xbox 360, if you put it dorsum so look 24 hours, he will have taken it. Make sure information technology is all the same around vii PM when you go out the kitchen or yous volition come across the problems mentioned beneath where Mortimer doesn't make his speech.
• PC Playstation iii Xbox 360 Ted Gunderson may become stuck in combat fashion, and will not follow you through area transitions. To correct, expect one hour or fast travel to The Strip Northward Gate, Ted should appear presently. When re-entering the Strip, be cautious as Ted does not take a passport and will be shot past security if you exercise not arrive to the gate fast plenty. Taking the monorail from Camp McCarran will besides work. Alternatively, if you do non want to risk Ted dying, you can slowly and carefully walk into him, pushing him towards Heck. This is assuming you do not accept to travel through whatsoever doors. You lot tin also use the 'resurrect' command on him from the console if y'all're playing the PC version, and information technology will reset him. Waiting ii to three hours on the PlayStation iii and Xbox 360 as well works. Also, if you have a full party, dismissing your humanoid companion on the spot, causes him to act ordinarily (Tested on PC). ^[verified]
• PC Playstation 3 Xbox 360 If yous prepare the meal, phone call the waiter, and and then go up to the individual dining room without Ted, Mortimer may never begin his speech. If you attempt to render later on with Ted, the room will become hostile toward you. ^[verified]
• Xbox 360 If you are working with the Legion, and get out Boone in the freezer every bit a substitute repast, brand sure you impale him before locking him in. "Back" him up into the freezer, kill him, return the Gunderson child to his father, then tell Mortimer. If you practise not kill Boone first, fifty-fifty if you rent another companion later he'southward been eaten, when you become to the Legion campsite, yous will exist perceived every bit hostile and attacked on sight. ^[verified]

Gallery

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References

Non-canon

1. ↑ Fallout: New Vegas 10th Anniversary Charity Stream (reference starts at two:23:15)
   Joshua Sawyer: "'Did I hateful to cutting Beyond the Beef?' No, Beyond the Beefiness... there were quests that we cutting for complexity or, similar, they got out of control really quickly. Just Beyond the Beef... even though it's buggy, is a very adept quest. No... Beyond the Beef did accept multiple milestones to end, which was frustrating, because there was a lot of content to make. But it was a very good quest, so we never talked near cutting information technology, but in that location was always like 'we gotta wrap upward Beyond the Beef and so we tin can practise other quests in the game.' That was more of the discussion."

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